[Limdep Nlogit List] LIMDEP and Stata Yield very different results in Multivariate Probit

Fred Dzanku fdzanku at gmail.com
Fri Mar 18 10:20:35 AEDT 2016


Thanks a lot Steven, I know that the Stata also used MSL. All check the
other issues but the results are too different to believe.
Fred
On 17 Mar 2016 23:06, "Steven Yen" <syen04 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I would examine the gradient vector at your estimates, in both Stata
> and Limdep. In Limdep, this can be done by ;output=2
> Your estimates are very different and not just standard errors. At ML
> estimates, gradients are supposed to be very small, e.g., 1e-6.
> Also, Limdep may be doing maximum simulated likelihood. Find out if
> this is what's done in Stata. Results from simulation and quadrature
> and simulations are likely to differ, slightly.
>
> On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 6:30 PM, Fred Dzanku <fdzanku at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Dear Users, I estimated a trivariate probit model (with clustering) in
> > Limdep and Stata. Surprisingly, the results (particularly) the standard
> > errors are very different, yielding very different inference. In Stata I
> > used the mvprobit command (written by Lorenzo Cappellari and Stephen P.
> > Jenkins). The difference is indeed shocking. Does anyone know why this
> might
> > be the case?
> >
> >
> >
> > The specification is:
> >
> > y1 = f1(y2, y3, x1, x2, x3)
> > y2 = f2(x1, x2, x3, x4, x5)
> > y3 = f3(x2, x3, x4, x6)
> >
> >
> >
> > In Limdep I wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Sample    ;all $
> >
> > Skip $
> >
> > Mprobit  ;Lhs=y1,y2,y3
> >
> >          ;eq1=y2,y3,x1,x2,x3,one
> >
> >          ;eq2=x1,x2,x3,x4,x5,one
> >
> >         ;eq3=x2,x3,x4,x6,one
> >
> >         ;pts=200;cluster=vid $
> >
> > And the results were:
> >
> >
> >
> > Normal exit from iterations. Exit status=0.
> >
> > +---------------------------------------------+
> > | Multivariate Probit Model:  3 equations.    |
> > | Maximum Likelihood Estimates                |
> > | Model estimated: Mar 17, 2016 at 00:29:05AM.|
> > | Dependent variable             MVProbit     |
> > | Weighting variable                 None     |
> > | Number of observations              650     |
> > | Iterations completed                 33     |
> > | Log likelihood function       -1242.182     |
> > | Number of parameters                 20     |
> > | Info. Criterion: AIC =          3.88364     |
> > |   Finite Sample: AIC =          3.88569     |
> > | Info. Criterion: BIC =          4.02139     |
> > | Info. Criterion:HQIC =          3.93707     |
> > | Replications for simulated probs. = 200     |
> > +---------------------------------------------+
> > +---------------------------------------------------------------------+
> > | Covariance matrix for the model is adjusted for data clustering.    |
> > | Sample of    650 observations contained     66 clusters defined by  |
> > | variable VID      which identifies by a value a cluster ID.         |
> > | Sample of    650 observations contained      1 strata defined by    |
> > |    650 observations (fixed number) in each stratum.                 |
> > +---------------------------------------------------------------------+
> > +--------+--------------+----------------+--------+--------+----------+
> > |Variable| Coefficient  | Standard Error |b/St.Er.|P[|Z|>z]| Mean of X|
> > +--------+--------------+----------------+--------+--------+----------+
> > ---------+Index function for Y1
> >  Y2      |     .84344025      5.74939391      .147   .8834    .38000000
> >  Y3      |     .42013852      3.25958960      .129   .8974    .35538462
> >  X1      |    -.00806300       .00860756     -.937   .3489   46.6107692
> >  X2      |     .31793308       .71794537      .443   .6579    .34307692
> >  X3      |     .01468727       .00840065     1.748   .0804   11.2224103
> >  Constant|    -.31411643       .77762634     -.404   .6863
> > ---------+Index function for Y2
> >  X1      |     .00779023       .00104284     7.470   .0000   46.6107692
> >  X2      |     .16831606       .00775319    21.709   .0000    .34307692
> >  X3      |    -.00663025       .00072659    -9.125   .0000   11.2224103
> >  X4      |     .14847431       .14394530     1.031   .3023    .28923077
> >  X5      |     .04544672       .05689766      .799   .4244    .11538462
> >  Constant|    -.70426701       .08723116    -8.074   .0000
> > ---------+Index function for Y3
> >  X2      |     .17303656       .01161279    14.901   .0000    .34307692
> >  X3      |     .00272569       .00050864     5.359   .0000   11.2224103
> >  X4      |     .19051601       .05574615     3.418   .0006    .28923077
> >  X6      |     .42854019       .04664493     9.187   .0000    .07692308
> >  Constant|    -.55390573       .03198934   -17.315   .0000
> > ---------+Correlation coefficients
> >  R(01,02)|    -.58312487      3.20681595     -.182   .8557
> >  R(01,03)|    -.44115615      1.23356392     -.358   .7206
> >  R(02,03)|     .40497242       .00399374   101.402   .0000
> >
> >
> >
> > In Stata I estimated:
> >
> >
> >
> > mvprobit (y1 y2 y3 x1 x2 x3) (y2 x1 x2 x3 x4 x5) (y3 x2 x3 x4 x6),
> > cluster(vid) draw(200) nolog seed(1003)
> >
> > with the following results:
> >
> >
> >
> > Multivariate probit (MSL, # draws = 200)          Number of obs   =
> > 650
> >                                                   Wald chi2(14)   =
> > 248.37
> > Log pseudolikelihood = -1241.6481                 Prob > chi2     =
> > 0.0000
> >
> >                                    (Std. Err. adjusted for 66 clusters in
> > vid)
> >
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > --
> >              |               Robust
> >              |      Coef.   Std. Err.      z    P>|z|     [95% Conf.
> > Interval]
> >
> -------------+--------------------------------------------------------------
> > --
> > y1           |
> >           y2 |   1.343666    .234929     5.72   0.000     .8832137
> > 1.804118
> >           y3 |   -.465239   .7326024    -0.64   0.525    -1.901113
> > .9706353
> >           x1 |    -.00879   .0037455    -2.35   0.019    -.0161311
> > -.001449
> >           x2 |   .2877144   .1807015     1.59   0.111    -.0664541
> > .6418829
> >           x3 |   .0162344   .0078329     2.07   0.038     .0008822
> > .0315867
> >        _cons |  -.1612781   .3041286    -0.53   0.596    -.7573591
> > .4348029
> >
> -------------+--------------------------------------------------------------
> > --
> > y2           |
> >           x1 |   .0075814   .0042735     1.77   0.076    -.0007944
> > .0159573
> >           x2 |   .1548884   .0846257     1.83   0.067    -.0109749
> > .3207516
> >           x3 |  -.0071789   .0064509    -1.11   0.266    -.0198224
> > .0054645
> >           x4 |   .1732857   .0972146     1.78   0.075    -.0172514
> > .3638228
> >           x5 |   .0102722   .1315351     0.08   0.938    -.2475319
> > .2680762
> >        _cons |  -.6934089   .2054128    -3.38   0.001    -1.096011
> > -.2908072
> >
> -------------+--------------------------------------------------------------
> > --
> > y3           |
> >           x2 |   .1702344   .0881082     1.93   0.053    -.0024546
> > .3429234
> >           x3 |   .0032607   .0058996     0.55   0.580    -.0083022
> > .0148237
> >           x4 |   .1644255   .1287772     1.28   0.202    -.0879732
> > .4168241
> >           x6 |   .4566752   .2159169     2.12   0.034     .0334859
> > .8798645
> >        _cons |   -.554203   .1180065    -4.70   0.000    -.7854915
> > -.3229145
> >
> -------------+--------------------------------------------------------------
> > --
> >     /atrho21 |  -1.052254   .6801192    -1.55   0.122    -2.385263
> > .2807557
> >
> -------------+--------------------------------------------------------------
> > --
> >     /atrho31 |   .0235009   .4724996     0.05   0.960    -.9025812
> > .9495831
> >
> -------------+--------------------------------------------------------------
> > --
> >     /atrho32 |   .4372824   .0815021     5.37   0.000     .2775413
> > .5970236
> >
> -------------+--------------------------------------------------------------
> > --
> >        rho21 |  -.7826809   .2634854    -2.97   0.003    -.9831906
> > .2736043
> >
> -------------+--------------------------------------------------------------
> > --
> >        rho31 |   .0234966   .4722387     0.05   0.960    -.7175524
> > .7395942
> >
> -------------+--------------------------------------------------------------
> > --
> >        rho32 |   .4113893   .0677086     6.08   0.000      .270628
> > .5349282
> >
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > --
> >
> >
> >
> > Other programs in Stata such as gsem and cmp yield estimates that are
> closer
> > to the mvprobit estimates. What might be the problem here?
> >
> >
> >
> > Fred
> >
> >
> >
> >
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