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D.Lee2 at business.uq.edu.au D.Lee2 at business.uq.edu.au
Fri Dec 15 20:09:07 EST 2006


Thanks Bill, I think I've got it under control now.
 
Best Regards,

Darren Lee (Room 328)
UQ Business School
Colin Clark Blg
Blair Drive
St Lucia
QLD, 4072
PH: 07 33656743
Fax: 07 33656988
Email: darren.lee at business.uq.edu.au

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Darren.  Point 3 in my first note.  You can use a Wald test, that is a t test, on the
estimate of RHO.  Or, you can use a likelihood ratio test of the null (pooled) vs.
the alternative (RE).
Bill Greene

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----- Original Message -----
From: D.Lee2 at business.uq.edu.au
Date: Thursday, December 14, 2006 8:02 am
Subject: RE: [Limdep Nlogit List] (no subject)

> Hi bill, thanks for the feedback.  I'm still a little confused.
>
> So how does one statistically support using a random effects model
> over a basic model in what they believe is a panel data set (but
> don't know if there is a panel data issue)?
> Best Regards,
>
> Darren Lee (Room 328)
> UQ Business School
> Colin Clark Blg
> Blair Drive
> St Lucia
> QLD, 4072
> PH: 07 33656743
> Fax: 07 33656988
> Email: darren.lee at business.uq.edu.au
>
> ________________________________
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> From: limdep-bounces at limdep.itls.usyd.edu.au on behalf of William
> GreeneSent: Thu 14/12/2006 9:49 PM
> To: Limdep and Nlogit Mailing List
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>
>
> Darren:
> (1) RHO is  not "calculated."  It is one of the parameters that is
> estimated by the ML procedure.
> The theory is that it equals Var[u]/{1 + Var[u]} where u is the
> random effect.
> (2) No, it is not equal to, or related to, the B&P LM test for
> random effects.
> (3) A Wald (t) test for RHO=0 is a test for the presence of random
> effects.  This (and any other
> test) is better than fitting the pooled model by OLS, which I
> would not recommend under any
> circumstances.
> Regards,
> /Bill Greene
>
>
> ************************************************
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> Department of Economics
> Stern School of Business
> New York University
> 44 West 4th St., Rm. 7-78
> New York, NY   10012
> Ph. 212.998.0876
> Fax. 212.995.4218
> URL. http://www.stern.nyu.edu/~wgreene
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: D.Lee2 at business.uq.edu.au
> Date: Thursday, December 14, 2006 4:32 am
> Subject: [Limdep Nlogit List] (no subject)
>
> > Hi Guys,
> >
> >
> >
> > I am trying to ascertain what Rho means in the output of a probit
> > paneldata model.
> >
> >
> >
> > 1) How is it calculated (i.e. is there anything in the manual)?
> >
> >
> >
> > 2) Is it like the Breusch and Pagan (1890) LM test for the random
> > effects model (see page 298, Greene 2003, Econometric Analysis)?
> >
> >
> >
> > 3) Does it provide a test that the random effects model is
> better than
> > the base OLS pooled regression (if not what does in LimDep)?
> >
> >
> >
> > (Rho is highlighted in the output below)
> >
> >
> >
> > +---------------------------------------------+
> >
> > | Random Effects Binary Probit Model          |
> >
> > | Maximum Likelihood Estimates                |
> >
> > | Model estimated: Dec 14, 2006 at 06:57:16PM.|
> >
> > | Dependent variable                  BIN     |
> >
> > | Weighting variable                 None     |
> >
> > | Number of observations              678     |
> >
> > | Iterations completed                  1     |
> >
> > | LM Stat. at start values       80.47393     |
> >
> > | LM statistic kept as scalar    LMSTAT       |
> >
> > | Log likelihood function       -439.3980     |
> >
> > | Number of parameters                 10     |
> >
> > | Info. Criterion: AIC =          1.32566     |
> >
> > |   Finite Sample: AIC =          1.32614     |
> >
> > | Info. Criterion: BIC =          1.39231     |
> >
> > | Info. Criterion:HQIC =          1.35146     |
> >
> > | Restricted log likelihood     -447.8178     |
> >
> > | Chi squared                    16.83944     |
> >
> > | Degrees of freedom                    1     |
> >
> > | Prob[ChiSqd > value] =         .4067828E-04 |
> >
> > | Unbalanced panel has     504 individuals.   |
> >
> > | Missing data: Skipped      137 individuals. |
> >
> > +---------------------------------------------+
> >
> > +---------+--------------+----------------+--------+---------+---
> --
> > -----
> > +
> >
> > |Variable | Coefficient  | Standard Error |b/St.Er.|P[|Z|>z] |
> > Mean of
> > X|
> >
> > +---------+--------------+----------------+--------+---------+---
> --
> > -----
> > +
> >
> > Constant     -1.86672694      .27865089    -6.699   .0000
> >
> > Z_SCORE       -.00777047      .00980270     -.793   .4280  
> > 4.23746475
> > TTL_ASSE       .50815559      .07045905     7.212   .0000  
> > 3.62885073
> > PE_RATIO       .00039061      .00031415     1.243   .2137  
> > 25.1300835
> > MB_RATIO       .00200406      .00679547      .295   .7681  
> > 4.32215507
> > TA_COM_E      -.00430420      .01020701     -.422   .6733  
> > 3.15135305
> > CURRENT_       .02051882      .01975231     1.039   .2989  
> > 2.09311815
> > FCF_TA        -.33304236      .29198730    -1.141   .2540    -
> > .00747627
> > MARKBLE1       .69932994      .82496361      .848   .3966   
> > .00386895
> > Rho            .04306220      .04783482      .900   .3680
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks for any help in advance.
> >
> >
> > Darren
> >
> > UQ Business School
> > Colin Clark Blg
> > Blair Drive
> > St Lucia
> > QLD, 4072
> > PH: 07 33656743
> > Fax: 07 33656988
> >
> > Email: darren.lee at business.uq.edu.au
> >
> >
> >
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