[Limdep Nlogit List] Problems in Nested Multinomial Logit Model
    William Greene 
    wgreene at stern.nyu.edu
       
    Wed Sep 10 22:01:38 EST 2008
    
    
  
Dear Ester Ramos Pérez: The line search error indicates that it is
not possitle to fit your model with the weights. The log likelihood
has changed only slightly from entry to exit. This is an indicator 
of a problem in your specification of the model - here it because 
of the weights. Without the data in hand, I cannot be any more specific
than that. For the second question you raised, your model is not 
identified. I would guess that the problem is the constant term in 
the utility function for Public. If you remove BP from the equation, I
suspect that the rest of the model will be estimated OK. When a model is
overspecified, it will predict the outcomes as well as one that is
not - that is why you are finding that the unidentified model is
"very good."
/B. Greene
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From: To: limdep at limdep.itls.usyd.edu.au
Cc: Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 7:50:12 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: [Limdep Nlogit List] Problems in Nested Multinomial Logit Model
 
We're fitting a nested multinomial logit model. As a response variable we have three alternatives (public transport, car and motorcycle). The syntax of the model, which we use, is:
 
NLOGIT;Lhs=MODE,N_ALT,ALT; Wts=ELEV;
Choices=Public,Cotxe,Moto;
Tree=Travel[TP(Public),VP(Cotxe,Moto)];
Model:
U(Cotxe)=BC+BCC*CGCO+BCA*DIA+BCR*RISC/
U(Moto)=BMC*CGMO/
U(Public)=BP+BPC*CGTP+BPI*INT1;
PrintVC;Crosstab;
Describe;List;ShowTree;Effects:;Pwt;Means$
 
 
When we obtain the results after the execution of the model, we can see these two errors.
 
Line search does not improve fn. Exit iterations. Status=3
  Error   806: Line search does not improve fn. Exit iterations. Status=3
Function=  .11853876438D+06, at entry,  .11812641048D+06 at exit
  Error  1025: Failed to fit model. See earlier diagnostic.
 
 
Our first question is what's the meaning of these errors, and how can we solve them? 
 
 
According to the above, We're fitting the same model without weight. The syntax of the model, which we use, is (without weight):
 
NLOGIT;Lhs=MODE,N_ALT,ALT;
Choices=Public,Cotxe,Moto;
Tree=Travel[TP(Public),VP(Cotxe,Moto)];
Model:
U(Cotxe)=BC+BCC*CGCO+BCA*DIA+BCR*RISC/
U(Moto)=BMC*CGMO/
U(Public)=BP+BPC*CGTP+BPI*INT1;
PrintVC;Crosstab;
Describe;List;ShowTree;Effects:;Pwt;Means$
 
 
Now, the results in all parameters of Public transport are not significant.
 
+---------+--------------+----------------+--------+---------+
|Variable | Coefficient  | Standard Error |b/St.Er.|P[|Z|>z] |
+---------+--------------+----------------+--------+---------+
          Attributes in the Utility Functions (beta)
 BC             .66774715      .08919300     7.487   .0000
 BCC           -.07808303      .01075774    -7.258   .0000
 BCA          -2.51885645      .15944988   -15.797   .0000
 BCR           -.06917638      .00737276    -9.383   .0000
 BMC           -.13290383      .02072193    -6.414   .0000
 BP            -.76015104     158.734729     -.005   .9962
 BPC           -.03802969     7.94136259     -.005   .9962
 BPI           -.38789100     80.9993955     -.005   .9962
          IV parameters, tau(j|i,l),sigma(i|l),phi(l)
 TP            2.10762224     440.113628      .005   .9962
 VP            2.35485967      .12374261    19.030   .0000
 
 
We don't understand why, because if we apply the model the degree of success is very good
 
Could you help us?
 
 
 
Ester Ramos Pérez
 
Gabinet d'Estudis
Transports Metropolitans de Barcelona
Tf. 93 298 75 57
Fax: 93 298 71 21
E-mail: eramosp at tmb.net <mailto:eramosp at tmb.net> 
 
 
 
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