[Limdep Nlogit List] bivariate probit

Dr. Anat Tchetchik manes at agri.huji.ac.il
Mon Nov 5 19:45:56 EST 2007


Thanks very much for your answer, can you please refer me to the
documentation you have mentioned in your answer?(regarding using a larger

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[mailto:limdep-bounces at limdep.itls.usyd.edu.au] On Behalf Of Fred Feinberg
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You *could* report the results, but probably shouldn't. Rho up near 0.99
certainly indicated one of three things: (1) an important omitted variable;
a model misspecification; (3) a flat-out error.

It is very unlikely that the fit at 0.99 is a true maximum. It may be a
from the estimation's approximation method, which I believe is either some
of quadrature or quasi-Monte-Carlo. Those methods work well IF enough
points are used. Have you tried using a larger value? You may discover that
0.99 value changes. [See the documentation for how to do this.]

A telltale sign is that the *substantive* results -- particularly the size
Rho -- change radically when any variables are subtracted. It's actually
common to have Rho go up when you leave out a variable, because that
variable is
now unavailable to 'remove' its effects from the model's two equations,
error would then be more correlated. Of course, taking out a variable can
increase the overall error in the model, so Rho can go down, too; but this
less common.

I'm curiour what Prof. Greene might say, but my own experience with
models indicates that this particular solution probably isn't an accurate
representation of what's going on in your data.



Fred Feinberg
Hallman Fellow and Professor of Management
Stephen M. Ross School of Business
University of Michigan
feinf at umich.edu

"Dr. Anat Tchetchik" wrote:

> We are running via  NLOGIT a bivariate probit with selection (which  uses
> the atanh(rho) during estimation) and keep receiving very high and
> significant Rho (0.99 but never 1), The model results, other than that,
> reasonable and fit our expectations.  when we omit variables from the
> rho decreases substantially and become insignificant.  Can we report our
> results with such rho?
> Thanks,
> Anat Tchetchik, Ph.D.
> The Department of Agricultural Economics
> The Hebrew University of Jerusalem
> Tel: 08-9489231
> cell: 054-4928740
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