[Limdep Nlogit List] Grouped data error message

Durham, Cathy cathy.durham at oregonstate.edu
Thu Aug 10 09:16:43 EST 2006


You have a lot of what appear to be dummy variables that are nearly
always one or zero,
and series variables that add up close to 1. For example TAST and NUT,
and ISELSE look like dummy variables and are at 0.97328244, 0.95038168,
and 0.03. If I am correct then you only have
7 observations for which TAST =0 rather than 1. NUT has 9 zeros and
ISELSE has only 9 ones . 
Then there is income.
INC1	4.408267518	3.5997424	1.225	0.2207	0.22519084	
INC2	-1.285378004 3.5167576	-0.366 0.7147	0.33969466	
INC3	1.958109458	3.2865041	0.596	0.5513	0.34732824
these income variables add up to                0.91221374
which isn't too troubling, but with the other dummy variables
some combination of them may be creating the
non psd result. 

-----Original Message-----
From: limdep-bounces at limdep.itls.usyd.edu.au
[mailto:limdep-bounces at limdep.itls.usyd.edu.au]On Behalf Of Andreas C
Drichoutis
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 12:58 AM
To: limdep at limdep.itls.usyd.edu.au
Subject: [Limdep Nlogit List] Grouped data error message


Hi all,
 
I'm estimating a grouped data model and I get the below error message
along
with a normal exit from iterations status. Are results trustworthy?
 
Thanks, 
Andreas
 
--> grouped ; lhs=VNL ; rhs=ONE, TAST, NUT, WWEEKH, STR,
    NFLX, PHDM, ISMED, ISELSE, ISFRIEN,ISNO, PLANNER,WEST,EAST, SOUTH,
    NORTH, BH,GH, EXER, NKN,NI,EFF2,GEND,AGE, EDUC2,EDUC3,
    INC1,INC2,INC3,ALWOFT, MED, OV,OB, HORIZON
    ; limits=0,2,3,5,8,13,21,36,60 ; KEEP=FITWTP2 $
Hessian is not positive definite at start values.
Error:   803: Hessian is not positive definite at start values.
B0 is too far from solution for Newton method.
Switching to BFGS as a better solution method.
Error:   137: Iterations: function not computable at crnt. trial
estimate
Normal exit from iterations. Exit status=0.
 
+---------------------------------------------+
| Limited Dependent Variable Model - CENSORED |
| Maximum Likelihood Estimates                |
| Model estimated: Aug 09, 2006 at 10:50:06AM.|
| Dependent variable                  VNL     |
| Weighting variable                 None     |
| Number of observations              262     |
| Iterations completed                 40     |
| Log likelihood function       -542.1200     |
| Censoring Thresholds for the 10 cells:      |
|      Lower   Upper     Lower    Upper       |
|  1 *******     .00  2     .00    2.00       |
|  3    2.00    3.00  4    3.00    5.00       |
|  5    5.00    8.00  6    8.00   13.00       |
|  7   13.00   21.00  8   21.00   36.00       |
|  9   36.00   60.00 10   60.00 *******       |
+---------------------------------------------+
+---------+--------------+----------------+--------+---------+----------
+
|Variable | Coefficient  | Standard Error |b/St.Er.|P[|Z|>z] | Mean of
X|
+---------+--------------+----------------+--------+---------+----------
+
          Primary Index Equation for Model
 Constant    -8.482913005       10.233783    -.829   .4072
 TAST         5.478935157       4.9333578    1.111   .2667     .97328244
 NUT          2.177748079       3.8330831     .568   .5699     .95038168
 WWEEKH       .1680148164   .57624526E-01    2.916   .0035     17.062977
 STR          .8091784428       3.3797176     .239   .8108
.72519084E-01
 NFLX        -7.947525292       2.5603588   -3.104   .0019     .18702290
 PHDM         4.183857111       2.5979839    1.610   .1073     .12595420
 ISMED        .7586809924       2.9977169     .253   .8002
.76335878E-01
 ISELSE      -3.926185490       4.6233206    -.849   .3958
.34351145E-01
 ISFRIEN     -.3896667449       2.0310790    -.192   .8479     .20229008
 ISNO         2.533267410       2.2699547    1.116   .2644     .17938931
 PLANNER     -3.313984298       2.6051747   -1.272   .2033     .76717557
 WEST        -5.941326081       2.5333251   -2.345   .0190     .29770992
 EAST         2.170737846       3.1197779     .696   .4866     .10687023
 SOUTH       -1.999043292       2.6000425    -.769   .4420     .21755725
 NORTH       -4.495901729       2.6671186   -1.686   .0919     .20992366
 BH          -.8803782412       2.8059552    -.314   .7537     .11832061
 GH          -1.881621104       1.8778815   -1.002   .3163     .50381679
 EXER        -.9005623461       2.0039123    -.449   .6531     .25954198
 NKN          1.296717302       .65778032    1.971   .0487     5.5190840
 NI          -.6860157977       .71955480    -.953   .3404     4.5725191
 EFF2         2.095537087       3.1710858     .661   .5087     .69338422
 GEND        -2.860793117       2.5055022   -1.142   .2535     .32061069
 AGE       .4139288739E-01  .67178016E-01     .616   .5378     49.572519
 EDUC2        1.829472402       2.1265093     .860   .3896     .45419847
 EDUC3       -1.524310636       2.8037247    -.544   .5867     .29007634
 INC1         4.408267518       3.5997424    1.225   .2207     .22519084
 INC2        -1.285378004       3.5167576    -.366   .7147     .33969466
 INC3         1.958109458       3.2865041     .596   .5513     .34732824
 ALWOFT       3.913428558       1.7985271    2.176   .0296     .34351145
 MED          3.683483871       2.6087065    1.412   .1580     .11450382
 OV          -4.368004327       1.8488591   -2.363   .0182     .41603053
 OB          -.8965140373       2.2921617    -.391   .6957     .18320611
 HORIZON      4.820180890       1.5867367    3.038   .0024     .38167939
 
 Sigma        11.23682290       .64048764   17.544   .0000
 (Note: E+nn or E-nn means multiply by 10 to + or -nn power.)
 
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